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He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.",[23,240,241,242,247,248,253,254,259,260,264,265,269],{},"For by ",[202,243,244],{},[48,245,246],{},"Him"," all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created ",[202,249,250],{},[48,251,252],{},"through Him"," and ",[202,255,256],{},[48,257,258],{},"for Him",". And ",[202,261,262],{},[48,263,237],{}," is before all things, and in ",[202,266,267],{},[48,268,246],{}," all things hold together.",[23,271,131,272,276],{},[70,273,275],{"className":274,"dataReference":275},[73],"Colossians 1:3",",13-17 (ESV)",[23,278,279],{},[48,280,281],{},"Hebrews:",[52,283,284],{},[23,285,286,287,290,291],{},"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, ",[48,288,289],{},"through whom also He made the worlds",". — ",[70,292,294],{"className":293,"dataReference":294},[73],"Hebrews 1:1-2 (NKJV)",[23,296,297],{},"If these verses are read selectively and each pronoun is assumed to refer to Jesus, the conclusion may be that Jesus is God Almighty because Malachi identifies the Creator as God.",[23,299,300],{},"The following sections consider these passages in context.",[38,302,304,308],{"id":303},"genesis-126-man-in-our-image",[70,305,307],{"className":306,"dataReference":307},[73],"Genesis 1:26"," (Man In Our Image)",[52,310,311],{},[23,312,313,314,317,318],{},"Then God said, “",[48,315,316],{},"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness",". And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock...” — ",[70,319,321],{"className":320,"dataReference":321},[73],"Genesis 1:26 (ESV)",[23,323,324],{},"Some readers take this verse as evidence that God has a human form, which they see as supporting the claim that Jesus is God.",[23,326,327,328,253,331,334,335,339],{},"According to Strong's Concordance, ",[202,329,330],{},"image",[202,332,333],{},"likeness"," can also convey ",[27,336,338],{"href":337},"..\u002Fshema\u002Fagency","resemblance or representation",".",[23,341,342],{},"Therefore, some interpretations are:",[344,345,346,350],"ul",{},[347,348,349],"li",{},"Humankind was to rule over creation as God rules.",[347,351,352],{},"Humankind was to represent God's character within creation.",[38,354,356],{"id":355},"john-1",[70,357,359],{"className":358,"dataReference":359},[73],"John 1",[23,361,362,363,367],{},"Some readers ",[27,364,366],{"href":365},"..\u002F..\u002Fname\u002Fword","identify Jesus with God in John 1 because they assume that Jesus is \"the Word\"",". 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This can give the impression that they are the same and that Jesus is the Creator.",[38,369,371,375],{"id":370},"acts-314-15-author-of-life",[70,372,374],{"className":373,"dataReference":374},[73],"Acts 3:14-15"," (Author of Life)",[52,377,378],{},[23,379,179,380,183,382],{},[48,381,182],{},[70,383,187],{"className":384,"dataReference":187},[73],[23,386,387],{},"This verse is sometimes presented as proof that Jesus is God, because God alone is understood to be the source of life.",[23,389,390,391,396,397,400],{},"However, ",[27,392,395],{"href":393,"rel":394},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F747.htm",[229],"Strong's Concordance"," gives a wider range of meanings for the Greek word translated as ",[202,398,399],{},"Author",":",[402,403,404,417],"table",{},[405,406,407],"thead",{},[408,409,410,414],"tr",{},[411,412,413],"th",{},"Field",[411,415,416],{},"Detail",[418,419,420,429,439,447],"tbody",{},[408,421,422,426],{},[423,424,425],"td",{},"Original word",[423,427,428],{},"ἀρχηγός, οῦ, ὁ",[408,430,431,434],{},[423,432,433],{},"Transliteration",[423,435,436],{},[202,437,438],{},"archégos",[408,440,441,444],{},[423,442,443],{},"Definition",[423,445,446],{},"Founder; leader",[408,448,449,452],{},[423,450,451],{},"Usage",[423,453,454],{},"Originator; author; founder; prince; leader",[456,457,459],"h3",{"id":458},"translation-renderings","Translation Renderings",[23,461,462],{},"Other translations render the term differently:",[52,464,465],{},[23,466,467,468,471,472],{},"And killed ",[48,469,470],{},"the Prince of life",", whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. — ",[70,473,475],{"className":474,"dataReference":475},[73],"Acts 3:15 (KJV)",[52,477,478],{},[23,479,480,481,483,484],{},"and killed ",[48,482,470],{},"; whom God raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. — ",[70,485,487],{"className":486,"dataReference":487},[73],"Acts 3:15 (ASB)",[52,489,490],{},[23,491,492,493,496,497,501],{},"“And you killed him, ",[48,494,495],{},"The Ruler of Life",", whom God raised from among the dead, and we are all his witnesses.” — ",[70,498,500],{"className":499,"dataReference":500},[73],"Acts 3:15"," (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)",[52,503,504],{},[23,505,506,507,510,511],{},"and you killed ",[48,508,509],{},"the one who leads people to life",". But God raised him from death, and all of us can tell you what he has done. — ",[70,512,514],{"className":513,"dataReference":514},[73],"Acts 3:15 (CEV)",[52,516,517],{},[23,518,480,519,483,521],{},[48,520,470],{},[70,522,524],{"className":523,"dataReference":524},[73],"Acts 3:15 (ERV)",[52,526,527],{},[23,528,529,530,533,534],{},"You killed ",[48,531,532],{},"the one who leads to life",", but God raised him from death—and we are witnesses to this. — ",[70,535,537],{"className":536,"dataReference":537},[73],"Acts 3:15 (GNT)",[52,539,540],{},[23,541,542,543,545,546],{},"and ",[48,544,470],{}," you killed, whom God raised out of the dead, of which we are witnesses; — ",[70,547,549],{"className":548,"dataReference":549},[73],"Acts 3:15 (LSV)",[52,551,552],{},[23,553,542,554,557,558],{},[48,555,556],{},"the Prince of the life"," ye did kill, whom God did raise out of the dead, of which we are witnesses; — ",[70,559,561],{"className":560,"dataReference":561},[73],"Acts 3:15 (YLT)",[52,563,564],{},[23,565,566,567,570,571,574],{},"and kylled ",[48,568,569],{},"the Lorde of lyfe"," whom God hath raysed from deeth of the which we are wytnesses. — ",[70,572,500],{"className":573,"dataReference":500},[73]," (Tyndale Bible of 1526)",[52,576,577],{},[23,578,579,580,582,583,586],{},"\"But you killed ",[48,581,470],{},", whom Elohim raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses.\" — ",[70,584,500],{"className":585,"dataReference":500},[73]," (TS2009)",[23,588,589],{},"In the context of:",[52,591,592],{},[23,593,594,595,598,599],{},"God exalted him at his right hand ",[48,596,597],{},"as Leader and Savior",", to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. — ",[70,600,602],{"className":601,"dataReference":602},[73],"Acts 5:31 (ESV)",[23,604,605],{},"the author of Acts may have intended the sense of “leader”, “ruler”, or “prince of life”.",[456,607,609],{"id":608},"context","Context",[23,611,612,615],{},[70,613,374],{"className":614,"dataReference":374},[73]," continues:",[52,617,618],{},[23,619,620,621,60,623,626],{},"But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, and killed ",[202,622,470],{},[48,624,625],{},"whom God"," raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses.",[23,628,629],{},"This interpretation distinguishes Jesus from God, because the passage says that God raised him from the dead.",[38,631,633,637],{"id":632},"_1-corinthians-86-through-whom-all-things-exist",[70,634,636],{"className":635,"dataReference":636},[73],"1 Corinthians 8:6"," (Through Whom All Things Exist)",[52,639,640],{},[23,641,642,643,205,647,651,652],{},"“... there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom ",[48,644,200,645],{},[202,646,204],{},[48,648,208,649],{},[202,650,211],{},".” — ",[70,653,216],{"className":654,"dataReference":216},[73],[23,656,657,658,661],{},"Out of context ",[70,659,636],{"className":660,"dataReference":636},[73]," identifies Jesus Christ as the Lord through whom all things were created. However, the NLT is a paraphrased bible translation based on the translator's interpretation. Some other bible translations like the ESV uses the word \"exists\" which gives the impression that we cannot physically exist without the Lord Jesus Christ.",[23,663,664,665,669],{},"This verse should be read in its immediate context. Paul is not giving a separate account of how creation happened. In ",[70,666,668],{"className":667,"dataReference":668},[73],"1 Corinthians 8",", he answers a practical question about food offered to idols. He contrasts the one God, the Father, with idols that have no real existence.",[52,671,672,678,688,711,720],{},[23,673,674,675,400],{},"Now concerning ",[48,676,677],{},"things offered to idols",[23,679,680,681,684,685,339],{},"We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him. 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Most English bibles are not a word-for-word ",[27,734,736],{"href":735},"#translation-comparison","exact translation of the Greek manuscript",". Therefore, the translators of the NKJV ",[202,739,740],{},"italic"," the words they added for readibility based on their interpretation.",[23,743,744],{},"The word \"live\" or \"exist\" are Trinitarian translator's interpretation.",[727,746,748],{"type":747},"important",[23,749,750],{},"The word \"created\" is missing in the Greek manuscript. It was added by biased bible translators, like the NLT, to give the impression that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Creator.",[23,752,753],{},"The topic was not about the Creation. The context is about knowledge of \"things offered to idols\". Therefore the natural reading is the \"all things\" refer to a dedicated lifestyle of obedience to either idols or God.",[23,755,756,757,684,760,769,770,773,774,777,778,781,782,787,788,791,792,787,797,800],{},"The phrase translated ",[202,758,759],{},"“through whom”",[27,761,764,765,768],{"href":762,"rel":763},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Finterlinear\u002F1_corinthians\u002F8-6.htm",[229],"δι’ οὗ (",[202,766,767],{},"di’ hou",")",": διά (",[202,771,772],{},"dia",") with the genitive relative pronoun ὅς (",[202,775,776],{},"hos","). Its standard gloss is “through whom” or “by means of whom”. This grammar marks means or ",[27,779,780],{"href":337},"agency",". It does not identify Jesus as a divine being. 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Saying that Jesus enables that purpose interprets ",[48,805,806],{},"διά"," as agency.",[23,809,810,814],{},[70,811,813],{"className":812,"dataReference":813},[73],"1 Corinthians 3:21-23"," supplies a meaningful parallel:",[52,816,817,838,857],{},[23,818,819,820,823,824,826,827,830,831,834,835,837],{},"Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be ",[48,821,822],{},"wise"," in this age, let him become a fool that he may become ",[48,825,822],{},". For the ",[48,828,829],{},"wisdom"," of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches ",[48,832,833],{},"the wise"," in their own craftiness”; and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of ",[48,836,833],{},", that they are futile.”",[23,839,840,841,844,845,848,849,852,853,856],{},"Therefore let no one boast in men. 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A primary pronoun of the first person I.",[408,945,946,953,955,957],{},[423,947,948],{},[202,949,950],{},[70,951,952],{},"there is but",[423,954],{},[423,956],{},[423,958],{},[408,960,961,964,971,974],{},[423,962,963],{},"ONE",[423,965,966],{},[27,967,970],{"href":968,"rel":969},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fheis_1520.htm",[229],"heis",[423,972,973],{},"Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular",[423,975,976],{},[27,977,980],{"href":978,"rel":979},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F1480.htm",[229],"One. (including the neuter Hen); a primary numeral; one.",[408,982,983,986,993,996],{},[423,984,985],{},"GOD",[423,987,988],{},[27,989,992],{"href":990,"rel":991},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Ftheos_2316.htm",[229],"theos",[423,994,995],{},"Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular",[423,997,998],{},[27,999,1002],{"href":1000,"rel":1001},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F2316.htm",[229],"A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.",[408,1004,1005,1008,1015,1018],{},[423,1006,1007],{},"THE",[423,1009,1010],{},[27,1011,1014],{"href":1012,"rel":1013},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fho_3588.htm",[229],"ho",[423,1016,1017],{},"Article - Nominative Masculine Singular",[423,1019,1020],{},[27,1021,1024],{"href":1022,"rel":1023},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F3588.htm",[229],"The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.",[408,1026,1027,1030,1037,1039],{},[423,1028,1029],{},"FATHER",[423,1031,1032],{},[27,1033,1036],{"href":1034,"rel":1035},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fpate_r_3962.htm",[229],"patēr",[423,1038,995],{},[423,1040,1041],{},[27,1042,1045],{"href":1043,"rel":1044},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F3962.htm",[229],"Father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior. Apparently a primary word; a 'father'.",[408,1047,1048,1051,1058,1061],{},[423,1049,1050],{},"FROM",[423,1052,1053],{},[27,1054,1057],{"href":1055,"rel":1056},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fex_1537.htm",[229],"ex",[423,1059,1060],{},"Preposition",[423,1062,1063],{},[27,1064,1067],{"href":1065,"rel":1066},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F1537.htm",[229],"From out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards. A primary preposition denoting origin, from, out.",[408,1069,1070,1073,1080,1083],{},[423,1071,1072],{},"WHOM",[423,1074,1075],{},[27,1076,1079],{"href":1077,"rel":1078},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fhou_3739.htm",[229],"hou",[423,1081,1082],{},"Personal \u002F Relative Pronoun - Genitive Masculine Singular",[423,1084,1085],{},[27,1086,1089],{"href":1087,"rel":1088},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F3739.htm",[229],"Who, which, what, that.",[408,1091,1092,1095,1102,1105],{},[423,1093,1094],{},"ALL",[423,1096,1097],{},[27,1098,1101],{"href":1099,"rel":1100},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fpanta_3956.htm",[229],"panta",[423,1103,1104],{},"Adjective - Nominative Neuter Plural",[423,1106,1107],{},[27,1108,1111],{"href":1109,"rel":1110},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F3956.htm",[229],"All, the whole, every kind of. Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole.",[408,1113,1114,1117,1124,1127],{},[423,1115,1116],{},"THINGS",[423,1118,1119],{},[27,1120,1123],{"href":1121,"rel":1122},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fta_3588.htm",[229],"ta",[423,1125,1126],{},"Article - Nominative Neuter Plural",[423,1128,1129],{},[27,1130,1132],{"href":1022,"rel":1131},[229],"The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the",[408,1134,1135,1143,1146,1148],{},[423,1136,1137],{},[202,1138,1139],{},[48,1140,1141],{},[70,1142,204],{},[423,1144,1145],{},"-",[423,1147,1145],{},[423,1149,1150],{},[202,1151,1152],{},[48,1153,1154],{},"Added by translator!",[408,1156,1157,1160,1167,1169],{},[423,1158,1159],{},"AND",[423,1161,1162],{},[27,1163,1166],{"href":1164,"rel":1165},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fkai_2532.htm",[229],"kai",[423,1168,914],{},[423,1170,1171],{},[27,1172,1175],{"href":1173,"rel":1174},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F2532.htm",[229],"And, even, also, namely.",[408,1177,1178,1181,1188,1190],{},[423,1179,1180],{},"FOR",[423,1182,1183],{},[27,1184,1187],{"href":1185,"rel":1186},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Feis_1519.htm",[229],"eis",[423,1189,1060],{},[423,1191,1192],{},[27,1193,1196],{"href":1194,"rel":1195},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F1519.htm",[229],"A primary preposition; to or into, of place, time, or purpose; also in adverbial phrases.",[408,1198,1199,1206,1213,1216],{},[423,1200,1201],{},[202,1202,1203],{},[70,1204,1205],{},"whom",[423,1207,1208],{},[27,1209,1212],{"href":1210,"rel":1211},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fauton_846.htm",[229],"auton",[423,1214,1215],{},"Personal \u002F Possessive Pronoun - Accusative Masculine 3rd Person Singular",[423,1217,1218],{},[27,1219,1222],{"href":1220,"rel":1221},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F846.htm",[229],"He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons.",[408,1224,1225,1228,1235,1238],{},[423,1226,1227],{},"WE",[423,1229,1230],{},[27,1231,1234],{"href":1232,"rel":1233},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fhe_meis_1473.htm",[229],"hēmeis",[423,1236,1237],{},"Personal \u002F Possessive Pronoun - Nominative 1st Person Plural",[423,1239,1240],{},[27,1241,943],{"href":941,"rel":1242},[229],[408,1244,1245,1254,1256,1258],{},[423,1246,1247],{},[202,1248,1249],{},[48,1250,1251],{},[70,1252,1253],{},"exist",[423,1255,1145],{},[423,1257,1145],{},[423,1259,1260],{},[202,1261,1262],{},[48,1263,1154],{},[408,1265,1266,1268,1273,1275],{},[423,1267,1159],{},[423,1269,1270],{},[27,1271,1166],{"href":1164,"rel":1272},[229],[423,1274,914],{},[423,1276,1277],{},[27,1278,1175],{"href":1173,"rel":1279},[229],[408,1281,1282,1288,1290,1292],{},[423,1283,1284],{},[202,1285,1286],{},[70,1287,952],{},[423,1289],{},[423,1291],{},[423,1293],{},[408,1295,1296,1298,1303,1305],{},[423,1297,963],{},[423,1299,1300],{},[27,1301,970],{"href":968,"rel":1302},[229],[423,1304,973],{},[423,1306,1307],{},[27,1308,980],{"href":978,"rel":1309},[229],[408,1311,1312,1315,1322,1324],{},[423,1313,1314],{},"LORD",[423,1316,1317],{},[27,1318,1321],{"href":1319,"rel":1320},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fkyrios_2962.htm",[229],"Kyrios",[423,1323,995],{},[423,1325,1326],{},[27,1327,1330],{"href":1328,"rel":1329},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F2962.htm",[229],"Lord, master, sir; the Lord. From kuros; supreme in authority, i.e. controller; by implication, Master.",[408,1332,1333,1336,1343,1345],{},[423,1334,1335],{},"JESUS",[423,1337,1338],{},[27,1339,1342],{"href":1340,"rel":1341},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fie_sous_2424.htm",[229],"Iēsous",[423,1344,995],{},[423,1346,1347],{},[27,1348,1350],{"href":1340,"rel":1349},[229],"Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.",[408,1352,1353,1356,1363,1365],{},[423,1354,1355],{},"CHRIST",[423,1357,1358],{},[27,1359,1362],{"href":1360,"rel":1361},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fchristos_5547.htm",[229],"Christos",[423,1364,995],{},[423,1366,1367],{},[27,1368,1371],{"href":1369,"rel":1370},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F5547.htm",[229],"Anointed One; the Messiah, the Christ. From chrio; Anointed One, i.e. The Messiah, an epithet of Jesus.",[408,1373,1374,1377,1384,1386],{},[423,1375,1376],{},"THROUGH",[423,1378,1379],{},[27,1380,1383],{"href":1381,"rel":1382},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002Fdi%E2%80%99_1223.htm",[229],"di’",[423,1385,1060],{},[423,1387,1388],{},[27,1389,1392],{"href":1390,"rel":1391},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F1223.htm",[229],"A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through.",[408,1394,1395,1397,1402,1404],{},[423,1396,1072],{},[423,1398,1399],{},[27,1400,1079],{"href":1077,"rel":1401},[229],[423,1403,1082],{},[423,1405,1406],{},[27,1407,1089],{"href":1087,"rel":1408},[229],[408,1410,1411,1413,1418,1420],{},[423,1412,1094],{},[423,1414,1415],{},[27,1416,1101],{"href":1099,"rel":1417},[229],[423,1419,1104],{},[423,1421,1422],{},[27,1423,1111],{"href":1109,"rel":1424},[229],[408,1426,1427,1429,1434,1436],{},[423,1428,1116],{},[423,1430,1431],{},[27,1432,1123],{"href":1121,"rel":1433},[229],[423,1435,1126],{},[423,1437,1438],{},[27,1439,1132],{"href":1022,"rel":1440},[229],[408,1442,1443,1451,1453,1455],{},[423,1444,1445],{},[202,1446,1447],{},[48,1448,1449],{},[70,1450,204],{},[423,1452,1145],{},[423,1454,1145],{},[423,1456,1457],{},[202,1458,1459],{},[48,1460,1154],{},[408,1462,1463,1465,1470,1472],{},[423,1464,1159],{},[423,1466,1467],{},[27,1468,1166],{"href":1164,"rel":1469},[229],[423,1471,914],{},[423,1473,1474],{},[27,1475,1175],{"href":1173,"rel":1476},[229],[408,1478,1479,1481,1486,1488],{},[423,1480,1376],{},[423,1482,1483],{},[27,1484,1383],{"href":1381,"rel":1485},[229],[423,1487,1060],{},[423,1489,1490],{},[27,1491,1392],{"href":1390,"rel":1492},[229],[408,1494,1495,1501,1506,1508],{},[423,1496,1497],{},[202,1498,1499],{},[70,1500,1205],{},[423,1502,1503],{},[27,1504,1212],{"href":1210,"rel":1505},[229],[423,1507,1215],{},[423,1509,1510],{},[27,1511,1222],{"href":1220,"rel":1512},[229],[408,1514,1515,1517,1522,1524],{},[423,1516,1227],{},[423,1518,1519],{},[27,1520,1234],{"href":1232,"rel":1521},[229],[423,1523,1237],{},[423,1525,1526],{},[27,1527,943],{"href":941,"rel":1528},[229],[408,1530,1531,1539,1541,1543],{},[423,1532,1533],{},[202,1534,1535],{},[48,1536,1537],{},[70,1538,1253],{},[423,1540,1145],{},[423,1542,1145],{},[423,1544,1545],{},[202,1546,1547],{},[48,1548,1154],{},[38,1550,1552],{"id":1551},"colossians-1",[70,1553,1555],{"className":1554,"dataReference":1555},[73],"Colossians 1",[52,1557,1558,1585,1627,1645],{},[23,1559,1560,1561,1566,1567,1572,1573,1578,1579,1584],{},"He has delivered us from ",[27,1562,1565],{"href":1563,"rel":1564},"https:\u002F\u002Fkingdom.ofgod.info\u002Fdarkness",[229],"the power of darkness"," and conveyed us into ",[27,1568,1571],{"href":1569,"rel":1570},"https:\u002F\u002Fkingdom.ofgod.info",[229],"the kingdom"," of the Son of His love, in whom we have ",[27,1574,1577],{"href":1575,"rel":1576},"https:\u002F\u002Fkingdom.ofgod.info\u002Fcovenants\u002Fchrist",[229],"redemption through his blood",", the ",[27,1580,1583],{"href":1581,"rel":1582},"https:\u002F\u002Fword.ofgod.info\u002Fterms\u002Fforgiveness",[229],"forgiveness"," of sins.",[23,1586,1587,1588,1592,1593,60,1598,1602,1603,1612,1613,60,1618,1623,1624,1626],{},"He is the ",[27,1589,330],{"href":1590,"rel":1591},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Fgreek\u002F1504.htm",[229]," of ",[27,1594,1597],{"href":1595,"rel":1596},"https:\u002F\u002Fofgod.info\u002Fappearance",[229],"the invisible God",[27,1599,1601],{"href":1600},"..\u002Fdivine\u002Ffirstborn","the firstborn"," over all creation. ",[48,1604,1605,1606,1611],{},"For by him all things were created that are in ",[27,1607,1610],{"href":1608,"rel":1609},"https:\u002F\u002Fword.ofgod.info\u002Fterms\u002Fheaven",[229],"heaven"," and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through him and for him."," And he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of ",[27,1614,1617],{"href":1615,"rel":1616},"https:\u002F\u002Fkingdom.ofgod.info\u002Fchrist\u002Fbody",[229],"the body",[27,1619,1622],{"href":1620,"rel":1621},"https:\u002F\u002Fchurch.ofgod.info",[229],"the church",", who is the beginning, ",[27,1625,1601],{"href":1600}," from the dead, that in all things he may have the preeminence.",[23,1628,1629,1630,1635,1636,1639,1640,339],{},"For it pleased ",[27,1631,1634],{"href":1632,"rel":1633},"https:\u002F\u002Fofgod.info",[229],"the Father"," that in him all the fullness should dwell, and by him to reconcile all things to himself, by him, whether things on earth or things in ",[27,1637,1610],{"href":1608,"rel":1638},[229],", having made peace through the blood of his ",[27,1641,1644],{"href":1642,"rel":1643},"https:\u002F\u002Fkingdom.ofgod.info\u002Fchrist\u002Fcrucifixion",[229],"cross",[23,1646,131,1647],{},[70,1648,1650],{"className":1649,"dataReference":1650},[73],"Colossians 1:13-20 (NKJV)",[727,1652,1654],{"type":1653},"warning",[23,1655,1656,1657,1661,1662,60,1666,1669,1670,1673,1674,1677],{},"The phrase \"in him\" means \"what exist in Christ now, because of what he has done\". To be \"in him\" is to be in his ",[27,1658,1660],{"href":1569,"rel":1659},[229],"kingdom",". Both the NASB and ESV both translate the same Greek phrase \"in him\" consistenly the same, except in ",[70,1663,1665],{"className":1664,"dataReference":1665},[73],"Colossians 1:16",[48,1667,1668],{},"they changed the phrase"," to ",[202,1671,1672],{},"\"by him\""," to fit their biased view so that it appear to look like ",[202,1675,1676],{},"Jesus is the Creator",". NASB is hard to read because it is supposed to be more accurate, but they failed with Colossians. Therefore I choose the NKJV version in this case.",[727,1679,1680],{"type":1653},[23,1681,1682,1687,1688,339],{},[27,1683,1686],{"href":1684,"rel":1685},"https:\u002F\u002Fclassic.net.bible.org\u002Fverse.php\u002Fdisplaybible.php?book=Col&chapter=1&verse=19",[229],"Some bible translations adds the word \"fullness of God\""," to verse 19 which does not exist in ",[27,1689,1692],{"href":1690,"rel":1691},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Finterlinear\u002Fcolossians\u002F1-19.htm",[229],"original Greek manuscripts",[23,1694,1695,1696,1699,1700,1704,1705,1710],{},"The choice of where to end sentences and begin new paragraphs lies with the English translator. Ancient Greek runs all the text continuously. There are not many word or paragraph seperators. When they do occur, it is significant. As seen in the screenshot of the ",[70,1697,1555],{"className":1698,"dataReference":1555},[73]," manuscript below, the outdents highlighted with red arrows indicate the beginning of the 2 strophes of ",[70,1701,1703],{"className":1702,"dataReference":1703},[73],"Colossians 1:15-20",". Visit ",[27,1706,1709],{"href":1707,"rel":1708},"https:\u002F\u002Fcodexsinaiticus.org\u002Fen\u002Fmanuscript.aspx?__VIEWSTATEGENERATOR=01FB804F&book=43&chapter=1&lid=en&side=r&verse=16&zoomSlider=0",[229],"Codex Sinaiticus"," to see the ancient manuscripts in more detail.",[23,1712,1713],{},[1714,1715],"img",{"alt":1716,"src":1717},"Manuscript of Colossians 1","\u002Fdivine\u002Fcreator.manuscript.webp",[23,1719,1720,1721,1724,1725,1730],{},"A very literal translation of ",[70,1722,1703],{"className":1723,"dataReference":1703},[73]," by ",[27,1726,1729],{"href":1727,"rel":1728},"https:\u002F\u002Fyoutu.be\u002FbAv10XKLA2I?si=aa5CUsdCgmsJST7I",[229],"Sean Finnegan"," divided into 2 strophes reads:",[402,1732,1733,1748],{},[405,1734,1735],{},[408,1736,1737,1740,1743,1745],{},[411,1738,1739],{},"Verse",[411,1741,1742],{},"Strophe 1: Colossian 1:15-18a",[411,1744,1739],{},[411,1746,1747],{},"Strope 2: Colossians 1:18b-20",[418,1749,1750,1769,1783,1795,1809,1821,1833,1845,1859,1873,1887],{},[408,1751,1752,1755,1761,1764],{},[423,1753,1754],{},"15a",[423,1756,1757,1758,1760],{},"WHO IS ",[70,1759,1007],{}," IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD,",[423,1762,1763],{},"18b",[423,1765,1757,1766,1768],{},[70,1767,1007],{}," BEGINNING,",[408,1770,1771,1774,1777,1780],{},[423,1772,1773],{},"15b",[423,1775,1776],{},"FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION",[423,1778,1779],{},"18c",[423,1781,1782],{},"FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD,",[408,1784,1785,1787,1789,1792],{},[423,1786,1145],{},[423,1788,1145],{},[423,1790,1791],{},"18d",[423,1793,1794],{},"IN ORDER THAT HE MAY BE FIRST IN ALL THINGS,",[408,1796,1797,1800,1803,1806],{},[423,1798,1799],{},"16a",[423,1801,1802],{},"FOR IN HIM WERE CREATED ALL THINGS",[423,1804,1805],{},"19",[423,1807,1808],{},"FOR IN HIM WAS PLEASED ALL THE FULNESS TO DWELL",[408,1810,1811,1814,1817,1819],{},[423,1812,1813],{},"16b",[423,1815,1816],{},"IN THE HEAVENS AND UPON THE EARTH,",[423,1818,1145],{},[423,1820,1145],{},[408,1822,1823,1826,1829,1831],{},[423,1824,1825],{},"16c",[423,1827,1828],{},"THE VISIBLE AND THE INVISIBLE,",[423,1830,1145],{},[423,1832,1145],{},[408,1834,1835,1838,1841,1843],{},[423,1836,1837],{},"16d",[423,1839,1840],{},"WHETHER THRONE OR DOMINIONS OR DOMAINS OR AUTHORITIES",[423,1842,1145],{},[423,1844,1145],{},[408,1846,1847,1850,1853,1856],{},[423,1848,1849],{},"16e",[423,1851,1852],{},"ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM",[423,1854,1855],{},"20a",[423,1857,1858],{},"AND THROUGH HIM TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS IN HIM",[408,1860,1861,1864,1867,1870],{},[423,1862,1863],{},"17a",[423,1865,1866],{},"AND HE IS BEFORE ALL THINGS",[423,1868,1869],{},"20b",[423,1871,1872],{},"MAKING PEACE THROUGH THE BLOOD OF HIS CROSS",[408,1874,1875,1878,1881,1884],{},[423,1876,1877],{},"17b",[423,1879,1880],{},"AND ALL THINGS HOLD TOGETHER IN HIM",[423,1882,1883],{},"20c",[423,1885,1886],{},"WHETHER THE THINGS UPON THE EARTH",[408,1888,1889,1892,1895,1898],{},[423,1890,1891],{},"18a",[423,1893,1894],{},"AND HE IS THE HEAD OF THE BODY OF THE CHURCH",[423,1896,1897],{},"20d",[423,1899,1900],{},"OR THE THINGS IN THE HEAVENS",[23,1902,1903],{},"Sean explains that although the strophes are not a perfect symmetry of each other, they do align a lot. The gaps were possibly caused by elaborations.",[23,1905,1906],{},"We should not let our theology drive the structure, as in the case of most English bible translations. We should rather let the structure of the text drive the theology.",[23,1908,1909],{},"If Strophe 1 was about the creation of the universe, it makes little sense to end the strophe with the church. The church only came into existance after Christ.",[23,1911,1912],{},"Verse 17a-18a serves as a summary of what \"all things\" means and serve as a conclusion to Strophe 1.",[456,1914,1916,1917],{"id":1915},"problems-with-creation-readings-of-colossians-116","Problems with Creation Readings of ",[70,1918,1665],{"className":1919,"dataReference":1665},[73],[1921,1922,1923,1959,1976,1995,2005,2023,2029],"ol",{},[347,1924,1925,1926,684,1930,1933,1934,1938,1939,1946,1947,1951,1952,1955,1956],{},"The context of ",[70,1927,1929],{"className":1928,"dataReference":1929},[73],"Colossians 1:13-14",[48,1931,1932],{},"about redemption, not creation",". Likewise, subsequent context ",[70,1935,1937],{"className":1936,"dataReference":1937},[73],"Colossians 1:21-22"," are also redemptive. What would flow more naturally from redemption (Christ saving us from sin) is the doctrine of the church instead of creation theory. According to Sean, ",[48,1940,1941,1942,1945],{},"most scholars generally agree that ",[70,1943,1703],{"className":1944,"dataReference":1703},[73]," were an insertion",". If one reads ",[70,1948,1950],{"className":1949,"dataReference":1950},[73],"Colossians 1:1-14"," and then skips to verse 21 and continue, the text reads smoothly with no breaks or discontinuality. Scholars are debating whether Paul wrote the inserted the ",[70,1953,1703],{"className":1954,"dataReference":1703},[73]," poetic unit in the text. ",[202,1957,1958],{},"It is possible that he cited it from somewhere else.",[347,1960,1961,1962,1966,1967,1971,1972,1975],{},"The word Greek word ",[27,1963,1965],{"href":1590,"rel":1964},[229],"eikón"," translated as \"image\" in ",[70,1968,1970],{"className":1969,"dataReference":1970},[73],"Colossians 1:15"," is similiar to the English word icon, which means to ",[48,1973,1974],{},"resemble"," something. This verse disprove that Jesus is God because it means that he only resembled God.",[347,1977,1978,1979,1982,1983,1987,1988,694,1991,1994],{},"Biblically to be made in the image of God is ",[48,1980,1981],{},"to be human"," (",[70,1984,1986],{"className":1985,"dataReference":1986},[73],"Genesis 1:26-27","). The bible does not mention some angelic being been created in His image. ",[48,1989,1990],{},"Nobody believes Jesus was a human at Creation.",[70,1992,1665],{"className":1993,"dataReference":1665},[73]," is therefore not speaking about something that happened at the Creation but something that happened during or after Jesus human life.",[347,1996,1997,2000,2001,2004],{},[27,1998,1999],{"href":1600},"Firstborn"," of some class, means to be the most the first or most important in that class. For example, ",[48,2002,2003],{},"Jesus was not the first human being been born"," of creation.",[347,2006,2007,2008,2012,2013,2016,2017,1669,2020,339],{},"As seen ",[27,2009,2011],{"href":2010},"#colossians-1","above",", if \"in him\" is the correct phrase to use in ",[70,2014,1665],{"className":2015,"dataReference":1665},[73],", it changes the meaning from ",[202,2018,2019],{},"\"Jesus is the Creator\"",[202,2021,2022],{},"\"being in Jesus Church\u002FKingdom\"",[347,2024,2025,2026,339],{},"Paul mentions at verse 18 that Christ is the \"head of the body of the Church\". If this was about Creation it meant ",[202,2027,2028],{},"the Church was the entire universe",[347,2030,2031,2034,2035,2039],{},[48,2032,2033],{},"Second Creator"," contradicts clear exclusive statements (",[70,2036,2038],{"className":2037,"dataReference":2038},[73],"Isaiah 44:24","). The same \"all things\" phrase are used in both passages.",[23,2041,2042],{},"James D.G. Dunn argues:",[52,2044,2045],{},[23,2046,2047],{},"If then Christ is what God's power\u002Fwisdom came to be recognized as, of Christ is can be said what was first of wisdom - that 'in him (the divine wisdom now embodied in Christ) were created all things.' In other words the language may be used here to indicate the continuity between God's creative power and Christ without the implication being intended that Christ himself was active in creation. -- Christology in the Making, 2nd ed. (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1996), 191.",[1921,2049,2050,2057,2060],{},[347,2051,2052,2053,2056],{},"Shared Jewish vocabularly ",[48,2054,2055],{},"does not mean dependence"," between the passages. Paul never used the word \"wisdom\". Wisdom is also often personified as a female, not a male Christ.",[347,2058,2059],{},"Still implies preexistance. If you replace \"wisdom\" with \"Christ\" it means you need to proof that Paul meant Christ pre-existed as Wisdom pre-existed.",[347,2061,2062],{},"Analogy works one-way. If one say \"Wisdom has found her home in Christ\" is not mean one could give Christ the credit for what Wisdom did before it became incarnated in Christ. It would be like punishing Nazi decendants for something their anchestors did.",[456,2064,2066],{"id":2065},"new-creation-language","New Creation Language",[23,2068,2069],{},"What it means:",[1921,2071,2072,2075,2078,2081],{},[347,2073,2074],{},"\"Image of God\" implies rulership of a new humanity. Christ is the new Adam in the \"new Creation\".",[347,2076,2077],{},"\"Firstborn of all creation\" is already taken with respect to the original creation, but from the new creation perspective dovetails nicely with \"firstborn from the dead\" (resurrected) in verse 18c.",[347,2079,2080],{},"\"Head of the body, the church\" in verse 18a implies new creation since the church didn't exist before Christ came.",[347,2082,2083,2084,253,2087,339],{},"New creation better fits the contextual frame of ",[70,2085,1929],{"className":2086,"dataReference":1929},[73],[70,2088,1937],{"className":2089,"dataReference":1937},[73],[2091,2092,2094],"h4",{"id":2093},"scope-of-all-things","Scope of “All Things”",[23,2096,2097,2100],{},[70,2098,1665],{"className":2099,"dataReference":1665},[73]," names thrones, dominions, rulers, and authorities among visible and invisible things, rather than naming rocks, water, plants, or animals.",[23,2102,2103,2104,2108],{},"What about \"in him ",[202,2105,2106],{},[48,2107,855],{}," things were created\"?",[23,2110,2111,2117],{},[202,2112,2113,2114,2116],{},"In this reading, Jesus created authority structures within his kingdom, and “",[48,2115,843],{},"” is understood in that context."," The passage does not settle that limit by its list alone; a broader cosmic reading remains possible.",[23,2119,2120],{},"For example, saying that children ate all the cookies usually means all the cookies available to them, not every cookie in the world.",[23,2122,2123],{},"For example:",[344,2125,2126,2134,2142],{},[347,2127,2128,2129,2133],{},"“All the men of Israel agreed” (",[70,2130,2132],{"className":2131,"dataReference":2132},[73],"2 Samuel 17:14",") need not mean that every Israelite was present.",[347,2135,2136,2137,2141],{},"“All the people seized Jeremiah” (",[70,2138,2140],{"className":2139,"dataReference":2140},[73],"Jeremiah 26:8",") can refer to those present, since others later released him.",[347,2143,2144,2145,2149],{},"“You know all things” (",[70,2146,2148],{"className":2147,"dataReference":2148},[73],"1 John 2:20",") does not require that a person knows everything without limit.",[23,2151,2152,2155,2156,2160],{},[70,2153,1703],{"className":2154,"dataReference":1703},[73]," parallels ",[70,2157,2159],{"className":2158,"dataReference":2159},[73],"Ephesians 1:20-23",". Both speaks of \"all things\", \"from the dead\", \"dominions\", \"domains\", \"authorities\", \"head of the body\", \"church\", \"the fullness\". The same person wrote both Colossians and Ephesians. Therefore it make sense to read them together to have a better understanding of Paul's intend. This means \"in Christ\" God bring about a \"new creation\" as Christ ascended into heaven at God's right hand.",[23,2162,2163],{},"What was created? Church structures, positions like apostles, prophets, etc.",[23,2165,2166,2169],{},[70,2167,1665],{"className":2168,"dataReference":1665},[73]," is talking about a new creation. \"In Christ\" God has brough about a whole new reality with new authority structures. These authorities are both visible and invisible both in heaven and upon the earth. These power structures manage the new realm where Christ is Lord.",[456,2171,2173],{"id":2172},"jesus-reference-to-the-creator","Jesus' Reference to the Creator",[23,2175,2176],{},"This interpretation also notes that Jesus refers to the Creator as someone else:",[52,2178,2179],{},[23,2180,2181,2182,2185,2186],{},"He ",[202,2183,2184],{},"(Jesus)"," answered, \"Have you not read that He Who created them from the beginning made them male and female?\" — ",[70,2187,2189],{"className":2188,"dataReference":2189},[73],"Matthew 19:4 (ESV)",[38,2191,2193],{"id":2192},"hebrews-1",[70,2194,2196],{"className":2195,"dataReference":2196},[73],"Hebrews 1",[52,2198,2199],{},[23,2200,286,2201,2203,2204],{},[48,2202,289],{},"; — ",[70,2205,294],{"className":2206,"dataReference":294},[73],[23,2208,2209,2210,2214,2215,2218],{},"The Greek ",[27,2211,876],{"href":2212,"rel":2213},"https:\u002F\u002Fbiblehub.com\u002Finterlinear\u002Fhebrews\u002F1-2.htm",[229]," shows that the word translated as “worlds” is ",[202,2216,2217],{},"aión",", which can refer to an age or span of time.",[402,2220,2221,2229],{},[405,2222,2223],{},[408,2224,2225,2227],{},[411,2226],{},[411,2228,395],{},[418,2230,2231,2239,2247,2253,2261],{},[408,2232,2233,2236],{},[423,2234,2235],{},"Original Word",[423,2237,2238],{},"αἰών, ῶνος, ὁ",[408,2240,2241,2244],{},[423,2242,2243],{},"Part of Speech",[423,2245,2246],{},"Noun, Masculine",[408,2248,2249,2251],{},[423,2250,433],{},[423,2252,2217],{},[408,2254,2255,2258],{},[423,2256,2257],{},"Phonetic Spelling",[423,2259,2260],{},"(ahee-ohn')",[408,2262,2263,2265],{},[423,2264,443],{},[423,2266,2267],{},"a space of time, an age",[23,2269,2270,2271,339],{},"The phrase “in these last days” may imply that God had not previously spoken through his Son. This reading therefore distinguishes the Son's role from God's speech in ",[70,2272,2274],{"className":2273,"dataReference":2274},[73],"Genesis 1",[23,2276,2277],{},"Under this interpretation, appointing the Son as “heir of all things” distinguishes him from the one who already owns everything.",[38,2279,2281],{"id":2280},"revelation-105-6",[70,2282,2284],{"className":2283,"dataReference":2284},[73],"Revelation 10:5-6",[52,2286,2287],{},[23,2288,2289,2290,2293,2294,2297,2298,2301,2302,2305,2306,2309,2310,2314],{},"Then I saw another ",[48,2291,2292],{},"mighty angel coming down from heaven",", wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow over his head, and ",[48,2295,2296],{},"his face was like the sun",", and his legs like pillars of fire. He had a little scroll open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea, and his left foot on the land, and called out with a loud voice, like ",[48,2299,2300],{},"a lion"," roaring... And ",[48,2303,2304],{},"the angel"," whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land... ",[48,2307,2308],{},"Who lives forever and ever, Who created heaven and what is in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it",", that there would be no more delay. — ",[70,2311,2313],{"className":2312,"dataReference":2313},[73],"Revelation 10:1-3",",5-6 (ESV)",[23,2316,2317,2318,2322],{},"Some scholars connect the descriptions of this “mighty angel” with Jesus. They therefore infer that ",[27,2319,2321],{"href":2320},"..\u002F..\u002Fname\u002Fson-as-angel","Jesus, as “the angel of the LORD”",", created the world.",[23,2324,2325],{},"However, the angel “raised his right hand to heaven and swore by Him” who lives for ever. This changes the subject from the angel to God, who lives for ever. Therefore, this passage does not explicitly state that the angel created the world.",[38,2327,2329],{"id":2328},"conclusion","Conclusion",[23,2331,2332,2333,60,2336,60,2340,60,2342,205,2345,2348],{},"The passages considered here identify God as Creator and can be read as distinguishing him from Jesus. The discussion of ",[27,2334,2274],{"href":2335},"#genesis-1",[27,2337,2339],{"href":2338},"#acts-3","Acts 3",[27,2341,1555],{"href":2010},[27,2343,2196],{"href":2344},"#hebrews-1",[27,2346,636],{"href":2347},"#co-operative-creators"," presents this interpretation in detail.",[23,2350,2351],{},"Jesus refers to God as Creator rather than claiming that role for himself:",[52,2353,2354],{},[23,2355,2356,2357,2360,2361,2365],{},"And Jesus, answering them, began to say: “Take heed that no one deceives you... For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which ",[48,2358,2359],{},"God created"," until this time, nor ever shall be. — ",[70,2362,2364],{"className":2363,"dataReference":2364},[73],"Mark 13:5",",19 (NKJV)",{"title":2367,"searchDepth":2368,"depth":2368,"links":2369},"",2,[2370,2371,2373,2374,2380,2384,2390,2391,2392],{"id":40,"depth":2368,"text":41},{"id":303,"depth":2368,"text":2372},"Genesis 1:26 (Man In Our Image)",{"id":355,"depth":2368,"text":359},{"id":370,"depth":2368,"text":2375,"children":2376},"Acts 3:14-15 (Author of Life)",[2377,2379],{"id":458,"depth":2378,"text":459},3,{"id":608,"depth":2378,"text":609},{"id":632,"depth":2368,"text":2381,"children":2382},"1 Corinthians 8:6 (Through Whom All Things Exist)",[2383],{"id":868,"depth":2378,"text":869},{"id":1551,"depth":2368,"text":1555,"children":2385},[2386,2388,2389],{"id":1915,"depth":2378,"text":2387},"Problems with Creation Readings of Colossians 1:16",{"id":2065,"depth":2378,"text":2066},{"id":2172,"depth":2378,"text":2173},{"id":2192,"depth":2368,"text":2196},{"id":2280,"depth":2368,"text":2284},{"id":2328,"depth":2368,"text":2329},"Biblical passages used in discussions about whether Jesus created the world.","md",{"keywords":2396},"Jesus creator, biblical creation, Christology, \u003Cspan class=\"bible-ref\" data-reference=\"Genesis 1\">Genesis 1\u003C\u002Fspan>, \u003Cspan class=\"bible-ref\" data-reference=\"Colossians 1\">Colossians 1\u003C\u002Fspan>, \u003Cspan class=\"bible-ref\" data-reference=\"Hebrews 1\">Hebrews 1\u003C\u002Fspan>",true,"\u002Fdivine\u002Fcreator",{"title":14,"description":2393},"divine\u002Fcreator","C5OoOMeA3n45p2EXERohdO6Sb-1mzTa2ncjkryxm0ZI",1794459724740]